Travel #LiveatFive: Home Edition with Norm Lewis of DA 5 BLOODS

(upbeat music) – What's up, everyone? We are Live at Five, it'sWednesday, June 10th.

I'm Paul Wontorek.

– I'm Beth Stevens.

– And we're joined, asalways, by Caitlin Moynihan.

– Hello.

– No signature earrings today.

– I thought this was enough.

– Sure, sure, it works.

(laughing) It is enough, because (Caitlin gasps)we have somebody fantastic here as a guest.

Beth, who is in our green room right now? – Oh, we have Tony-nomineeand certified movie star, Norm Lewis with us today.

– Yes! I just watched his movie, oh my god, it's so good.

I thought it was just gonna be, I'll tell you later.

I have a lot to say, it's so good and I'm so excited to see him do something so exciting.

A Spike Lee joint, what? A Spike Lee joint starring Norm Lewis.

I'm so into that.

We will find out everything but first, let's do today's news.

(upbeat music) – Hello, is this the musicalyou've been waiting for? – Oh, you didn't sing it, I was hoping you weregonna sing it, Caitlin, because that's Lionel Richie, of course, and Disney is developing a movie musical with the catalog of Lionel Richie hits.

So, it's called All Night Long, you wanna sing, Paul? – Not with Norm Lewis in the green room, – We'll wait for Norm, we'll wait for Norm.

– I'm not singing.


(laughs) – Of course, All Night Long is the 1983 big chart-topping number, it's going to be writtenby Pete Chiarelli, who wrote Crazy Rich Asians, and it will feature the LionelRichie hits that you know, Hello, thus Caitlin's intro there, Say You, Say Me, Endless Love, which was his duet, of course, and yeah, so of course.

– No, wait, no, no, you did not mentionDancing on the Ceiling.

– Right.

– Oh, what a feeling.

That's a big production number, no?- I didn't mention that, I didn't mention that.

– It's, what.



(sighs) Make sure they get that one.

– I will also say that before Lionel Richie was the Lionel Richiethat we know and love, he was also part of the Commodores, so it might include some of those songs and you can't forget the Commodores, so there you go.

Lionel Richie movie (laughs) in the works.

– Sure.

– This sounds ripe, ripe for a Broadway moment, but we'll let it go to be a movie first, and also, you should know, Lionel Richie songs have been included in at least two Broadway shows: Motown: The Musical and Disaster! Exclamation point.

– (laughs) I wouldn'thave guessed Disaster! I wouldn't have thought of that, but there are a lot ofgreat songs in Disaster! – [Caitlin] Yes, andsome of our stage faves, including Miss Audra, are taking part of this virtual summer concert series.

– She's just Miss Audra, we used to call her MamaBroadway, wasn't that a thing for a while?- Norm Lewis can call her whatever he wants, he's probably texting her right now.

– He's calling her right now.

So, Audra McDonald, so Seth Rudetsky, our friend, Seth Rudetsky, is doing his Broadway concert series, which he used to do at theArt House in Provincetown, which is a great theater, and he's done them all over the place, but he's doing them online, because that's what you do this summer.

So, we just found out Audra McDonald, Lea Salonga and MelissaErrico have all signed on and we already knew that on the14th, there's Jeremy Jordan, then Jessie Mueller's the 21st, it's all starting with Kelli O'Hara, these are all the regular names that we talk about a lot here.

(Beth laughs) Lea Salonga, June 28th, Melissa Errico, July 5th, Audra McDonald, July 12th, they're all at 8 p.

m, they're all Sunday night and then a second showing on Mondays, and you pay for tickets for these, but they're fantastic, 'cause you know, Seth Rudetsky plays and hehas stories and gossip and, you know, it's Seth Rudetsky, that's what he does, it's his thing.

– [Beth] It's his thing.

– [Caitlin] Yes, and someof our favorite theaters, like the Public, have gotten some grants to keep them afloatduring this tough time.

– Right, well, actually, this is from the NationalEndowment for the Arts, which is always giving out grants, even not during a tough time, and they're doing theirsecond round of funding for the 2020 fiscal year and some of our favoriteplaces, like the Public Theater, were included in these grants, they gave out 1144 grantsto arts organizations, which is pretty amazing, in all 50 states and all five US territoriesand Washington D.


So, some of the organizationsthat we know and love are the Public Theater, the Brooklyn Academy from, I'm saying this wrong, the Brooklyn Academy of Music, or BAM, the Lincoln Center forthe Performing Arts, La MaMa, downtown, anda lot of other places, this is a great program, helps a lot of companiescommission a lot of new work and put on all thoseshows we know and love and this organization, the NEA, won a special Tony in 2016.

– I forgot that, thanks for reminding me.

– [Beth] You're welcome.

– [Caitlin] That is so special.

And what is even alsospecial is that Rita Moreno is going to be doing areally great duet next week.

– So, this is Rita Moreno, you know her, Tony-winner, Oscar-winner, – EGOT.

– EGOT, Anita, her name is Rita and not Chita, that used to be a forbiddenBroadway thing back in the '80s.

Anyway, so she's on the newreboot of One Day at a Time, which is a big hit, and she will be singingwith Gloria Estefan, Mi Tierra, which is a great, remember that album, Beth? It was all Cuban music, it was so good.

– Yeah, yeah, yeah.

– Anyway, so they're doing aparody duet of Gloria's song.

This is an episode on the 16th at 9:30 and it also features a guy you might know named Lin-Manuel Miranda, it's called The Politics Episode and Lin and Gloria play aconservative aunt and uncle who come to visit, so that's something, it's Broadway-adjacent news, right? (Beth laughs) That's what we call somethinglike that, Broadway-adjacent, all people that we'vetalked about on Broadway.

Anyway, it's time totalk about Norm Lewis.

Come on, it's time.

Beth, I know you're gonnastick around and watch.

– Of course.

– But I'm gonna take you out right now and Caitlin, please introducetoday's leading man.

– Gladly.

You guys, today we have NormLewis here with us today for a fun episode of Liveat Five: Home Edition, live right here on Facebook and YouTube.

We're gonna be talking allabout the upcoming release of his new Spike Lee film, Da 5 Bloods, that's coming up onNetflix this Friday, okay, and Norm Lewis, he's in it, he's starring it, he'sEddie, it's amazing.

You guys, Broadway fans might know Norm for being a Tony-nomineefor Porgy and Bess, he made history as the Phantomin The Phantom of the Opera, he has over 12 Broadwaycredits to his name and if we listed every iconicstage moment he has had, we would be here for the next two hours, so instead, we're just gonna bring him in, you guys can follow himon social @thenormlewis, leave all of your questionsin the comments below and please welcome Norm and Paul.

– Norm Lewis.

– How are you? – How are you, sir? – I'm good, I'm— Uh– – No, go ahead.

– Only two hours of memorablestage moments, that's it? Only two hours? (Paul laughs) You've done a lot, you've done a lot, yeah, and I just watched your film, but let's start with sortof the obvious question, the world that we're in right now, there's a lot of turmoil, alot of protests happening, there's a lot of discussionabout the Broadway community, how Broadway artists areimpacted by all this, so I just kinda wanna check in with you.

You are a well-loved partof the Broadway community and I feel like a lot of people are talking about change on Broadway and I'm sort of wondering how you're feeling andmaybe what you're hoping for will come out of all thisonce Broadway is back.

– Well, you know, look, we're all trying to have one voice, we don't all have the same experiences, but we all wanna go towards the same goal and what the death ofGeorge Floyd has done is opened up a Pandora's boxof many different challenges that's in this nation and this world and if you wanna bringit down to a micro level, in this industry and so, it's things that we need to talk about and we're just trying tofigure that out right now, just trying to figure that out and people are talking with each other and trying to haveconversations and dialogue and some are more intensethan others, but, (laughs) but I think it's definitelybecause of the passion that's been brewing for so long.

– Mm-hmm, yeah, and you actually, this movie will be a bigpart of the conversation, it must be exciting to think that something that you filmed last year and now it's coming out on Friday and I know this was sort of, originally it was supposed to go to the Cannes Film Festival, right, and you know, obviouslybecause of COVID-19, everything got adjusted, but now it's coming out on the 12th, Spike Lee directed it and everyone, this weekend, everyoneis gonna be talking about Da 5 Bloods, that must be exciting.

– It is.

You know, the thing about it is that it's almost prophetic, you know, Spike Lee has always beena leader in black culture and telling that story, black American story, African American story, but a lot of people arenot African Americans, a lot of people from Jamaica or wherever, so he wanted to focus on the black culture and what was interestingabout this is that we, it is a lesson, you know, in each thing that Spike does, it always turns out, not only is it entertaining, but there always seems to bean educational proponent to it, or component to it, and so it was educational for us, even the guys that were in the show, I had no idea about thisstory or these stories and it really brought a new awareness andhopefully authenticity to us developing our charactersthroughout this movie.

– Mm-hmm, yeah, so we'retalking about the Vietnam War.

– Right.

– And a group of blackservicemen that serve together, Da 5 Bloods.

– Right.

– DA.

Da 5 Bloods.

– Da 5 Bloods.

– Yes, and it is a Spike Lee joint, I just like saying that, I'vealways loved saying that.

Actually, I just wanna ask you, I remember being a high school student and I spent a summer, I was from Connecticut, I spent the summer in New York City and it happened to be the summer Do the Right Thing came out.

– Right.

– And I remember seeing it in a New York movietheater and having just, it's one of my all-time favorite films.

I wanted to ask you, isthere anything sort of from the Spike Leeresume that just really, is really meaningful for you? – There's so many of 'em, but I will say the onethat left a mark on me was the first one, 'causepeople kept saying, you know, I was in collegewhen this one came out and then people kept saying, yougotta see this film, there's this new guy that's out there, he's really telling this story and She's Gotta Have It was one of those things thatwas just so significant and so groundbreaking and it set a tone for what the rest of his filmmaking has been, so you know that's, any time you see a Spike Lee joint, you know that's SpikeLee, you know what I mean? – Yeah.

– That sounds redundant, but it is, you know his cinematography, his artistry, so, I mean, Malcolm X, I cansay too left a mark on me.

– Yeah.

– Yeah, yeah.

– So, did you audition for him? How did this movie come into your life? Let's start with that.

– So, we've known each other for a while, he's come to see me do different things, he came, I think he sawPorgy and Bess five times.

– Wait, hold on, I got abeautiful photo from that, remember that? There you are, there you are.

– Wait, who is that? – With Audra McDonald.

– Audra McDonald.

– So, Spike saw that one a bunch.

– (laughs) Yeah, he did and the thing about it is, over the years, I wouldsee him at different events and then I got lucky enough two summers ago to bein She's Gotta Have It, the TV series.

– The reboot, the reboot, right.

– The reboot.

And so, I got a chanceto do an episode on that and that was my experiencewith him, working with him.

A few months later, I get a phone call, he has my number, he's like, Norm, what are you doing? Uh, yeah, I'm just sitting at home.

He said, I got a scriptI want you to read, I'm gonna send it to you, click.

And that was it.

– Wow.

– So, I'm going, okay, Spike Lee wants me to read a script, I don't know what this means but, if he wants my opinion, I don't, so I read the script and then the next morning, he called, he said, so what do you think? I said, it's great, it's fantastic, look, good luck on that project, I hope you have a good time.

(Paul laughs) And then he said, I want youto meet me for dinner tonight, I wanna talk about it more and I'm like, okay.

Now, again, wheels turning but I don't wanna make any assumptions, I don't wanna, he said, don't even tellyour manager or agent, so that's how it was, so, I said, okay, maybe he mightwant me to be a part of this, I go to dinner that night, we talk about the script again and then we specifically talk about Eddie and he's like, well, Iwanna offer you that role.

Okay, okay! So, inside, I'm jumping upand down like this little boy that just found out hegot on the football team but I'm trying to be cool and I'm like, well, thanks, man, I mean, it's an honor to be partof anything that you do, but inside, I'm like, ah, you know, doing this.

And then I left thereand I called my manager and I said, Spike just offered me a job.

(Paul laughs) And so, we got busy with that and then, you know, a fewweeks later, he wins an Oscar and then he leaves for Thailand, he's in a good mood, I leavefor Thailand, we all meet up and some of us know each other, and some of us are meetingeach other for the first time, but knowing each other's work, and then we just startdelving right into it, and he's amazing, I cannot tell you how, I cannot tell you just, you have to experiencewhat his process is, it's fantastic.

– Wow.

So, the guys that you're talking about, actually, I love this, so you all serve together inVietnam, there's four of you, you're aged up a little bit, by the way, I don't know if you knew that.

(Paul laughs) – No, I'm up there.

– You're the baby, you'rethe baby of the group, you're the baby of the group.

(Paul laughs) So you're all there, it was five guys that served together, so Delroy Lindo, ClarkePeters, Isiah Whitlock Jr.

, who by the way, are all Broadway veterans, so this is a very Broadway topic, we can talk about this movie very openly, and you're all there lookingfor this guy named Norm.

– Yeah, yeah.

– Stormin Norman, yeah, who died and you all watchedhim die during the war and you're there to get his body and maybe to look for some treasure and it really crosses genres, this movie.

– Yeah, it's, I mean, the narrative is that we goback to go get his remains so we can give him a properburial and blah, blah, blah, but also there's gold there and I think that that's nota spoiler, it's just a fact and we're going there and there's some, I always say, there'splots to bring disaster, that comes along with all of this, but it's interesting because there's a lot of comedy in it, there's a lot of heart in it, you see brotherhood, you see these black men going through real, realproblems and real struggles but it's not about being black, there's certain levels that come to light in this whole thing and we're just seen as human beings going through a human experience but there's this love for each other and that will never go away and even though we've beenseparated for many years and lived our lives, we come back to the significance of this one goal, or two goals, actually.

(laughs) – This is not your firstexperience with Vietnam art, you were the best Johnever in Miss Saigon.

– Oh, stop it! (Paul laughs) I do have a record ofbeing in Miss Saigon, I was the longest John on Broadway.

– In height, height? – No, no.

(laughs)(Paul laughs) – And you sang that song beautifully, I'm gonna change the topic, you sang that song beautifully.

If you want to sing it right now, you can, did you sing it on setat all, of Da 5 Bloods? Were you like, hey guys, I wasin a show called Miss Saigon? – Yeah, I always say, come listen to me, no, but you know, I willsay that Spike did have me, when we were finishing up certain areas, he would say, hey, we're on a slow boat or a boat going somewhere, we're going back to New York.

He's like, Norm, sing that song, didn't you do that show? So I had to sing Boat Leaving for New York (Paul laughs)in the middle of the jungle and he was like, sing it! And I'm like, come on, Spike.

No, sing it! – Wow.

– And you have to do what Spike says, so I ended up singing ABoat Leaving for New York in Thailand.

– So, you were also hired to be SpikeLee's fantasy jukebox? – Absolutely, absolutely.

(laughing) – So, I also read, thisis the biggest budget Spike Lee's ever had, this film, this was a budget budget, for him, I mean, he's workedwith really small budgets a lot but this was actuallya big, what was it like and you talked about where you filmed and I mean, just look at, just look at the locations, I mean, that's where, where was that? – [Norm] That's in Thailand and we're in an actual rice paddy.

– Wow.

– Yeah.

– And so, what was it like, did you feel, and also, I love seeing you, you've done a lot of TV, every time you were onScandal, I got very excited but you've done a lot of little TV things but this is a big, meaty Norm Lewis role.

– Yeah, this is— What is it like to get that? – This was the biggestthing I've done so far and you know, I was so appreciative of being a part of thiswhole journey with Spike and telling this story.

It was great to have, because there was a major budget with this, Netflix just went all out, but I will say thatSpike was very strategic and actually brought alot of things under budget because I think he's used to that, and they really appreciated it, you know, so it left a lot of money on the table for them to work on other, you know, for other thingsto go along with this movie and he came in with, we would finish things orscenes or any of the storyline quicker than they were ready for and in some cases, I had afew days off on the schedule and then I had fourdays off in succession, but then I had to takeone of those and go, no, they said, they're ready for you now, so we were ready to goon another location, so Spike knows how wave hiswand when it comes to budgets.

– And I just realized that, are you getting a, areyou hearing me twice? – No, uh-uh.

– Okay.

I'm gonna try not to do that.

Hold on, I'm gonna takemyself off for a second.

– Are you echoing, okay.

– Hello?- Yeah.

– Norm doesn't hear it twice.

Okay, it went away.

So, what I wanted to ask, I just realized, Eddie, he walks pigeon-toed, doesn't he? – Yeah.

– And I just realized, Porgy and Bess, you mastered, you were like, I don't know, I still don'tknow how you did that every day, but you also have that amazing talent that actually came into play here that, I mean, there's a physicalityto this character as well.

– That was another reason I think that that's why he was thinking of me, because he knew that I had gone through some physical deformity for a year, being in Porgy and Bess, so that actually brought, he actually broughtthat up, 'cause he said, okay, you can handle this, Iknow you can handle this and we were running up and down terrain, I was running up and downa football field of terrain which was going up and down like this, while I was holding a gunand shooting at people and the heat, it was like, 94 degrees was the minimumwe were dealing with, sometimes it was 112, it was humid, we had bugs landing on us, even with bug repellent, they were like, I don't care, (Paul laughs) we gonna land on youanyway and bite you anyway.

But I think that added to what those characters went through, either in the scenes that were flashbacks or even in the modern day scenes, so that was, it worked, it worked for helping us develop those characters.

– 'Cause Spike also had this great idea of not making you guys youngerin the flashback scenes, which is obviously was really discussed, by the way, this movieis getting rave reviews, I should say.

– Yeah.

– This morning, I just read amazing reviews across the board.

It's just like, this is so great, but a lot of people are talking about how, De Niro in The Irishman, another Netflix movie, they made him younger for the flashbacks, for this one, they chose to just have you guys do theflashback scenes as well, which is really interesting.

– Yeah.

I think because Spike was, when he talked to us about that, he was like, no, you know what, let's not worry abouttrying to de-age you, let's not put a wig on you or make you younger and all that stuff, he's like, you're going through this, even in this moment, you neverforget where you came from, it's almost like that cliche, if I knew then what I knownow kind of situation, so he just said, and being on stage, weunderstand this as actors, as long as you're telling the story, people get it, people will understand.

When Mr.

Cooper, what's hisname, what's his first name, Mr.

Cooper that did TheElephant Man recently.

– Bradley.

– Bradley! Forgive, me Bradley.

– Did I win, did I win? Ding, ding, ding! – Yeah, ding, ding, ding!(Paul laughs) Bradley Cooper was upthere doing his monologue and then he actuallydid this kind of thing and then you go with the story, you don't need to add makeup and stuff, so that's what we did with this and you know, it was amazing to be with Chadwick Boseman, first of all, Blank Panther, we weregetting over that thing, 'cause he's so significant in that but listening to him as Norman and his wisdom and his support and you know, making sure that we know thatblack people are dignified and just trying to stay the course, it was interesting to, asEddie, listening to all that and that absorbing and thenthat coming back to him 40-some-odd years later and the reason why we're there, to get this gold so we canhelp Black Lives Matter or help black people.

– Yeah.

And there's talk ofreparations in the movie, there's talk of Black Lives Matter, I mean, all of this, which again is why I think it's really gonna strike an amazing nerve with people right now.

– Very timely.

– Yeah.


It's exciting to, I'm telling you, it's gonnabe in everyone's Netflix this weekend, it's gonna be the thing.

I wanna bring in Caitlin andlet's take some user questions, some fan questions.

– Yes.

Okay, so we're gonnado the first question, okay, Christal wants to know, what was the biggest adjustment for you when you first starteddoing movie and TV and film, versus doing it on Broadway? – Well, Broadway, you know, we're trying to hit the back of the stage and I'm trying to speaklike this and la, la, la and trying to— You have a very booming, you're very booming too.

– And so, you're trying tomake it as real as possible, even when you're doing all that big stuff and especially being in musicals, because you speak untilyou can't speak anymore.

♪ And then you have tosing, Paul Wontorek ♪ You know.

– Ah, I've never heard you sing my song before.

(laughing) – We gotta put that on an album somewhere.

– All right! (laughs) – But then with, I remember, one of my first gigs, years ago, I was directed by Apollo Creed, now I'm forgetting hisname, don't get old, but I'm forgetting hisreal name, Apollo Creed.

Help me out.

Anybody, anybody? – From the movie? – Yeah, what's his real name, Carl Weathers.

– Carl Weathers, thank you.

– Carl Weathers was directing me in a show called Strong Medicine and I just remember, I was so nervous and my wife has just hadpost-partum depression and she left the baby somewhereand she's in the hospital, so I'm at the doctorsoffice, I'm kinda like, you know, tell me about my wife and I'm getting allinto this and passionate and Carl, we did it a couple of times, he's like, okay, Norm, come here for a second, you do theater, right? And I said, yeah.

He said, yeah, your voice is big, you don't have to be thatbig, just bring it down.

I said, really? He's like, yeah, youcan bring it right here, it's all about the eyes, it's all about the yes and the passion behind that, they'll know what you're thinking.

I said, okay, so I trusted him and then it just kindof progressed from there and taking my acting classesand on-camera classes and I learned that there'sa significant amount of just bringing it down and just being, just think about something andit coming through your eyes, where on Broadway, you kind of have to go, you kind of have to be alittle bit more lively, but it's just having those skillsets and one of the things, I guess I'm kind of, I keep going with this answer, but one of the things I find, that a lot of people whoonly do television and film find it difficult to do theater but people who do theater, it's a little bit differentbecause we can bring it down, so.

– Mm-hmm.

When you've been gettinggreat practice too, doing a lot of TV and real sort of, you've been getting ready for this moment.

– Absolutely, and you know, there's now more cross-pollination, especially with musical theater people, where it used to be, it'sjust musical theater, it's just theater, just TV, just film.

– Yeah.

– Now there's more cross-pollination.

– Yes, that's amazing.

– That was a long answer, I'm so sorry.

– No, I love a long answer.

– We love it.

So, a lot of people want to know about what it's like being aleading man on Broadway you have such a well-rounded resume.

So, Johnny wants to know specifically, do you have a favorite show or character you've been able to do over these years? – Well, it's been interesting because I guess what I'm knownfor is Phantom and Javert, because it's all in your, you know– – [Paul] I got some visuals, I got some visuals.

– Who's that guy? Who's that guy? (Paul laughs) And actually, I have another record, I should be very proud of myself, I was the first African American to play Javert on Broadway, so I have that, the longest John and the Phantom, anyway.

(Norm laughs) – You had to bring it up again.

(laughing) Uh-huh.

– But, all of my roles have been, they're like my little babies, 'cause I've learned so much from them and I use all of whatI've learned from them into each new character, and I did a show calledCaptains Courageous off-Broadway with MTC and what I learned from that is, I had four lines and what wassignificant about that was we had to learn a Gloucester, Massachusetts accent, they brought in a coach to teach us that, but it felt wrong in my spiritthat I would be doing this and what I found outthrough research is that a lot of those fishermenin those fishing boats would go down to the Caribbean to find people to work ascooks and I was the cook, so I decided to do a Trinidadian accent, as opposed to doing aGloucester, Massachusetts.

I felt proud about that and bringing that to life every night and making this character haveauthenticity, if you will.

– Mm-hmm, I love that, but you also, I miss this one, by the way, I miss this.

(Norm laughs)I miss that.

You did The Music Man inD.


, I miss that one.

– Yeah, that was a dream come true and you know, I have to say that I was just so honored tobe a part of that journey with Jessie Mueller and Rosie O'Donnell and you know, I appreciateeverybody that was in that and even though it wasa short amount of time, I always wanted to play that role and I was hoping that maybeI could change a few minds for Broadway, but you know, some guy named Hugh.



– That guy.

– What's his last name? – Carl Weathers, I don't know his last name.

– Carl Weathers.

(laughs) I love you, Hugh, I was justkidding, I love you, man.

I can't wait to see you do the show.

– Oh my gosh, this is hilarious.

Okay, so, Caitlin Elizabethon Facebook wants to know, can we hear all about the amazing Georgia Stitt album that Norm slays in? – Wow.

Well, I mean, I only know about my part and you know, I'm just sohonored to be on this album because Georgia Stitt is, I can't curse on this network but Georgia Stitt is(Paul laughs) effing phenomenal, I mean, come on, look at who sheis married to, for one.

– Jason Robert Brown, yes.

– But on her own, she is just amazing, and I love the fact that she's created this community for women to be seen in this world that usuallyis dominated by men and so I hope more womenget recognized like she is.

She's just phenomenal andthis album is fantastic, all the people that are on it, I saw some of the recordings, we do cross-overs, and I would sit there and just watch and watch this process andsee her change certain things and get certain harmonies from people and emotion from people and she did that withme when I did my song, I love that song, I gottaactually ask her permission if I can sing that in a concert somewhere.

– I'm sure she'll say yes.

You have some greatalbums too, by the way, I don't know if you knew that.

– I got a couple of good ones, yeah.

I feel very proud about them and hopefully some otherones will be coming soon.

– Awesome.

– Yeah.

– Ooh, I love it.

Okay, I think we have timefor one more question.

– No, I'm sorry, I'mtalking so much, I'm sorry.

– It's all right, it's all good.

– You can stay forever, totally fine by me.


– I have COVID hair, Ineed to get a haircut.

– Yeah, me too, I'm just grooming it, I'm just grooming it.

– I just pull it back, throwa headband on, it's fine.


(laughs)- I know.

(laughs) – So, Rosie wants to know, what are you most excited about for people who know you from Broadway to see you in this new movie? – I think more than just seeing me in it, I think the fact that they, I just want them to see it, this is a part of history thatwas left out and you know, I may have mentioned thisbefore, I'm not sure but there was 11% of African Americans in the United States at that time, they made up that percentage, but yet it was 33% of the army – Wow.

– Was African American men and I didn't know this, we didn't know this when we got there and we did a lot of research with books and some documentaries that we saw and it was just significantto have that be told and hopefully, with everybody who, all of my non-black friends are calling to say theysee me and they support me and they love me and they hear me, I think this is one of those things where people are willing to findout more about this culture and finding out about the history and I feel like this movie will be that, be one of those keys that opens that door, you know?- Mm-hmm.

I feel like being on a SpikeLee set must just have, it must be so many levels, I mean, you're making art, but you're also, it's like an education and he's just a brilliant guy to be around and history, I just can't, it must be a lot to walkaway from, with all that.

– Yeah, and the thing about it, you know, working with him, you just trust him and you come into this cocoon of something that's already working and then you get thefreedom to be this actor and you know, he's an actor, so he knows about that, I mean, he's an actor, director, a writer, he's got all of that and he trusted us with his material and then sometimes he wouldchange in the middle of it, a lot of it was improv-ed, a lot of it was like, I don't like that line, change that, do this, youknow, that kind of thing.

– Oh, I know he's an actor, he was Mookie in Do the Right Thing.

– Yeah, and I mention Mookie in the movie because of me being pigeon-toed.

(laughing) – Oh, Norm Lewis, I'm so excited for you, I'm gonna bring Caitlin and Beth back in.

Beth, do you have any questions, yeah, Beth's a big Spike Lee fan, too, – I'm a big Spike Lee fanand I'm a big Norm Lewis fan, he sang your name, Paul, so forget it.

(laughing) I'm very jealous.

– I want to hear the rest of that song.

(laughing) We're gonna play, so the movie, Da 5 Bloods, is on NetflixFriday, this Friday, or I think if you stayup really late tomorrow, at midnight, it probably goes on, depending on which timezone you're in.

– To that point, I feel like because of what's beenhappening in the world, with COVID, our economy, and everybody is on one accord anyway, and they're coming atit from different ways, but I feel like people being at home will get a chance to, there might be more people who will see it than if it had been in the theater, so, – Absolutely.

– I'm really excited about that and there's gonna be a change that'shappening, it's so strong.

Japan, Japan is saying Black Lives Matter, the world is saying Black Lives Matter, so we're all on one accord, I feel hopeful.

– Absolutely, I'm so thrilled.

It's great to see you, I'm so happy everyone's gonna see onyou Netflix this weekend.

Caitlin will take us out and then she's gonna show us the trailer.

♪ Caitlin and Beth and Paul ♪ (Paul laughs)- I'm gonna go faint.

♪ I love you all ♪ (laughing) – Thank you, Norm Lewis.

– This can be our new theme song.

(laughing) – Bye.

– Bye, you guys.

– It's amazing.

Oh my goodness.

You guys, I want that to be thenew Live at Five theme song.

Thank you guys so much for tuning in for another fun episode ofLive at Five: Home Edition.

You can follow along whereveryou get your podcasts by searching for #LiveatFive and hitting that subscribe button.

Be sure to tune in tomorrow and we're gonna roll you guys out with the trailer of Da 5 Bloods, coming to Netflix on Friday.

– Black GI, is it fair to serve more than the white Americans that sent you here? Nothing is more confused than to be ordered into a war to die, without the faintestidea of what's going on.

I dedicate this nextrecord to the soul brothers of the 1st Infantry Divisions.

Be safe.

♪ Time has come today ♪ ♪ Young hearts can go their way ♪ ♪ Can't put it off another day ♪ – Gentlemen, welcome back to Vietnam.

– Look what I found.

– There the man in all his glory.

– [Man] Who was that guy? – That brother was the bestdamn soldier that ever lived.

♪ Hey ♪ ♪ I have no place to stay ♪ ♪ Hey ♪ – We bury it.

Later on, we come back and collect.

♪ My love has flown away ♪ ♪ Hey ♪ ♪ My tears have come and gone ♪ ♪ Hey ♪ ♪ Oh my lord, I have to roam ♪ ♪ Hey ♪ – I shall resign the presidency.

– [Man] Being back here, it is not easy.

♪ Now the time has come ♪ ♪ Time ♪ ♪ There's no place to run ♪ – I'm broken, man.

– So what, you're blaming yourself? – You don't even know.

– Bloods!- Norm! ♪ Time ♪ ♪ I've been loved and put aside ♪ ♪ Time ♪ ♪ I've been crushed by tumbling tide ♪ ♪ Time ♪ ♪ And my soul has been psychedelicized ♪ ♪ Time ♪ – We've been dying for thiscountry from the very get.

♪ Now the time has come ♪ ♪ Time ♪ ♪ There are things to realize ♪ – We give this gold to our people.

♪ Time ♪ – Hold on! ♪ Time ♪ – In my line of work, Ihave to be very careful and that means knowing exactlywho I am in business with.


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